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Post by Grim on Sept 22, 2006 7:27:40 GMT -5
Where as I agree, seeing little kids walking around trying to kill you would be creepy and you'd probably die more by them just because you feel too bad to shoot them. But adding a child to the game, could make a rather big stink with people, there are a lot of people who would probably get pretty upset from it, I mean, it does happen after all. I mean, you got one hand, people don't care for other people (normally  ), so you don't feel bad running around blowing off the head of some guy who was tortured and experimented on and changed to some monster, but seeing a little kid who you basically know had no choice or chance to fight it. I agree, and disagree basically, hard to say for sure, theres the part where, it's realistic, then there is the other part, where it is just plain cruel. Maybe we can add some rabid dogs or some thing.......I dont' feel bad for putting a bullet into the head of a dog who has no soul. |
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Post by Doyora on Sept 22, 2006 7:54:11 GMT -5
I think this is actualy the best idea for a new speciment type yet. It could work well with more thought.
And how is it any less ethical than killing a clot. They were grown in vats. They want to kill you. You're putting them out of their misery. Plus, I think Prey has child zombie things.
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Post by WNxPr0 Pa|n on Sept 22, 2006 7:59:10 GMT -5
Dont double post, meh i give this idea 1% chance of getting into KF. Tough Cherubs are cool. I have to 2 x post to answer all questions. |
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Post by zombieButcher on Sept 22, 2006 8:00:16 GMT -5
Dont double post, meh i give this idea 1% chance of getting into KF. Tough Cherubs are cool. I have to 2 x post to answer all questions. You have an "Edit" button, whant me to take a picture of it for you? It is called "Modify", my bad. |
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Post by WNxPr0 Pa|n on Sept 22, 2006 8:01:45 GMT -5
I think this is actualy the best idea for a new speciment type yet. It could work well with more thought. And how is it any less ethical than killing a clot. They were grown in vats. They want to kill you. You're putting them out of their misery. Plus, I think Prey has child zombie things. Im glad u looked on it as a proposal. I just wanted to contribute to the game, and thats how u took the suggestion. Thank you! BTW what is Prey ? Another MOD? Sry, my bad. Im kinda blind.... |
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Post by Blue on Sept 22, 2006 8:12:34 GMT -5
Where as I agree, seeing little kids walking around trying to kill you would be creepy and you'd probably die more by them just because you feel too bad to shoot them. But adding a child to the game, could make a rather big stink with people, there are a lot of people who would probably get pretty upset from it, I mean, it does happen after all. I mean, you got one hand, people don't care for other people (normally ), so you don't feel bad running around blowing off the head of some guy who was tortured and experimented on and changed to some monster, but seeing a little kid who you basically know had no choice or chance to fight it. I agree, and disagree basically, hard to say for sure, theres the part where, it's realistic, then there is the other part, where it is just plain cruel. Maybe we can add some rabid dogs or some thing.......I dont' feel bad for putting a bullet into the head of a dog who has no soul. Seconded, though I´m not so sure about the whole animals-not-having-souls-thing what with me being a cat owner and all (she is sitting on my left leg right now by the way ... she knows what you said. She can read and she will have her revenge). Anyway, I´m not against new ideas. And I would be scared by zombie kids, I gotta admit. But I´d feel bad shooting at them. And whatever I say now has already been said my Grim so I just shut up and see how others react to this |
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Post by WNxPr0 Pa|n on Sept 22, 2006 8:16:03 GMT -5
Where as I agree, seeing little kids walking around trying to kill you would be creepy and you'd probably die more by them just because you feel too bad to shoot them. But adding a child to the game, could make a rather big stink with people, there are a lot of people who would probably get pretty upset from it, I mean, it does happen after all. I mean, you got one hand, people don't care for other people (normally ), so you don't feel bad running around blowing off the head of some guy who was tortured and experimented on and changed to some monster, but seeing a little kid who you basically know had no choice or chance to fight it. I agree, and disagree basically, hard to say for sure, theres the part where, it's realistic, then there is the other part, where it is just plain cruel. Maybe we can add some rabid dogs or some thing.......I dont' feel bad for putting a bullet into the head of a dog who has no soul. Seconded, though I´m not so sure about the whole animals-not-having-souls-thing what with me being a cat owner and all (she is sitting on my left leg right now by the way ... she knows what you said. She can read and she will have her revenge). Anyway, I´m not against new ideas. And I would be scared by zombie kids, I gotta admit. But I´d feel bad shooting at them. And whatever I say now has already been said my Grim so I just shut up and see how others react to this I can only quote this: |
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Post by WNxPr0 Pa|n on Sept 22, 2006 8:20:20 GMT -5
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Post by Grim on Sept 22, 2006 8:55:30 GMT -5
Prey is a full stand alone game designed by a company And I never said clots killing ethical, or non ethical, or whatever. But they're at least twenty, they lived life, you don't feel bad ending their mutated life so they are "set free" But a kid, you just feel horrible, this is when you start trying to find a cure, when you see the children And as for your Cat Blue, I have three cats, and two dogs. And two dogs before those two dogs. They piss me off too much for me to care if I shoot them or not in a game But anyways! Adding kids and animals or anything else would be up to the team of course, and I don't know if anyone (other then Abyx) can 3D model, and Abyx is focused mainly on Static-Meshes more then 3D player models, well for now. Honestly, I dunno even if Abyx wants to do 3D player models period . The rigging would be all the same, a dog would be the same as a human, just shaped different (rigging is the skeleton basically that allows it to move realistically), and kids would be the same, just smaller. |
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Post by Blue on Sept 22, 2006 9:26:31 GMT -5
Damn, I got owned . How do you live with all those animals? And how do they get along ? |
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Post by Grim on Sept 22, 2006 9:39:53 GMT -5
Kinda awkward. It's like a cartoon. The one dog, who is a lot fatter then the other, is like a mafia dog, who throws the weaker dog out of the way and steals his food so she can stay fat, but she waits till no one is looking, I swear, she eyes you till you move out of visual site then she goes for it, while protecting her own food, and he (ooh, got owned by a girl!) just whimpers a lot and runs off, but it's funyn when she sees me come back because she runs off pretty fast because she knows she's gonna get it for stealing his food , then my cat, who has a twin sister, which use to be hard to tell them apart, now one is fluffy and the other is mingy, whenever they go outside, the stay away from the dogs because they chase them which is amusing, but the smallest one, who is just a little bit older then a kitten now, attacks my dogs and the dogs are afraid of the kitten now, and it's just, all very awkward. |
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Post by Abyx on Sept 22, 2006 10:21:49 GMT -5
This is an idea that really just plain..can't be implemented. If you guys have ever been on the NMRIH forums, you'd see the constant arguement of zombie kids, yeah it's fucking scary and it'd be more realistic, but the thing is mod reviewers, website owners, all of this. Would specifically state: "This game has zombie kids in it." or something, and then SOMEONE will freak out and make a big deal out of it and it's REALLY not worth all the trouble. Sure it IS a cool idea, but it's really not worth the pain we will most likely get. And Grim, it'd be easy to model a child, take the standard clot, scale him down, add hair and a different skin. |
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Post by Dastard on Sept 22, 2006 10:50:22 GMT -5
Well, to be fair about the Prey kids, in the retail game they turned them into spirit things so as to avoid any sort of Jack Thompson-esque asshattery.
I think zombie kids by themselves wouldn't add enough to the game. I have, however, been conceptualizing recently a sort of composite creature concept that would be a tangle of corpses in a psuedo-anthropomorphic shape, and I was thinking that it could be composed of children, or at least some children. I wasn't necessarily thinking about it for KF per se, since I've got at least a billion different ideas for different IP's running through my brainmeats, but it could possibly be in KF, possibly as a SP boss monster.
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Post by WNxPr0 Pa|n on Sept 22, 2006 11:07:45 GMT -5
This is an idea that really just plain..can't be implemented. If you guys have ever been on the NMRIH forums, you'd see the constant arguement of zombie kids, yeah it's fucking scary and it'd be more realistic, but the thing is mod reviewers, website owners, all of this. Would specifically state: "This game has zombie kids in it." or something, and then SOMEONE will freak out and make a big deal out of it and it's REALLY not worth all the trouble. Sure it IS a cool idea, but it's really not worth the pain we will most likely get. And Grim, it'd be easy to model a child, take the standard clot, scale him down, add hair and a different skin. Good point... |
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Post by Abyx on Sept 22, 2006 11:29:22 GMT -5
And another thing, if they're naked(Which I would make sure they aren't), it could bring into play the whole "OH MY GOD! THEY'RE PEDOPHILES!" thing or some such.
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), so you don't feel bad running around blowing off the head of some guy who was tortured and experimented on and changed to some monster, but seeing a little kid who you basically know had no choice or chance to fight it. I agree, and disagree basically, hard to say for sure, theres the part where, it's realistic, then there is the other part, where it is just plain cruel. 
