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Post by «Søñ!çSøûñD» on Aug 24, 2006 9:20:59 GMT -5
You misunderstood me.
I had that other Pre-Version in mind, not that one from today.
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Post by zombieButcher on Aug 24, 2006 9:45:20 GMT -5
Tried it with a pre-version of the patch, which faust gave me, that tactic still works till the 3rd~4th wave. Would be cool if the Hunting Shotgun damage would be lowered more than just 10 - IMO that weapon is much too overpowered. Its a fucking elephant hunting shotgun, idiot. |
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Post by Abyx on Aug 24, 2006 11:39:27 GMT -5
Sonic, seriously, the HS is NOT overpowered at ALL. If anything if you wanted to go for realism, it's not powerful enough.
They're designed to knock ELEPHANTS to the ground or cripple them with a single shot, a second to kill them.
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Post by uwasawaya on Aug 24, 2006 12:37:37 GMT -5
Be nice ZB, and I was a huge protester of the HS for a long time... now it's almost necessary. Trust me Sonic, wait for the patch, play a game with us on Swamp... you'll have 22 shells against 200 specimins. It gets awful ugly awful quick.
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Post by zombieButcher on Aug 24, 2006 13:44:44 GMT -5
Be nice ZB, and I was a huge protester of the HS for a long time... now it's almost necessary. Trust me Sonic, wait for the patch, play a game with us on Swamp... you'll have 22 shells against 200 specimins. It gets awful ugly awful quick. No i cant stand it. |
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Post by «Søñ!çSøûñD» on Aug 24, 2006 17:22:38 GMT -5
Just like I said, I've had a pre-version of the Patch, where the HS had 49 shots at max (and reloading takes only 1 bullet). You misunderstood me. I had that other Pre-Version in mind, not that one from today. And even if it's an Ion cannon, that doesn't change my opinion about the former one. Btw. even if you're the leader of XPC, I advise you to NEVER call me an idiot again, clear?! ... |
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Post by uwasawaya on Aug 25, 2006 2:20:44 GMT -5
I have to make an apology to someone I spoke ill of previously... someone who now holds a dear, dear place in my heart...
The crossbow... I finally got to use you tonight, and you singlehandedly killed two modified waves... you are my new Jesus...
Seriously, every sniper in the team needs to use this thing... I had no idea how ridiculous it was... one hit kills on Gorefasts if you hit them in the head, one hit kills on Bloats, Clots and Stalkers... and the Stalkers and Clots can be killed in groups of like five with one crossbow bolt... God is it sweet.
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Post by faust on Aug 25, 2006 3:47:30 GMT -5
Now that you mention it, I guess the crossbow is a tad overpowered atm. It just has too much ammo, being as lethal as the HS to single enemies but having twice the ammo. I'll give it less ammo, like 24.
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Post by Abyx on Aug 25, 2006 11:15:07 GMT -5
I'd say more like 30.
The Crossbow honestly seems fine to me, but maybe because I really suck with it, the sights are so off it's not even funny.
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Post by faust on Aug 25, 2006 12:08:24 GMT -5
Yeah it's 30 atm.
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Post by uwasawaya on Aug 25, 2006 12:23:39 GMT -5
The crossbow is pretty good at the moment... it basically allowed me to survive about as long as the HS does... I'm very impressed with it. Ammo wise it's fine, considering it's sister weapon carries 70... during the BIG waves, 24 makes it unusable.
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Post by Abyx on Aug 25, 2006 12:24:01 GMT -5
Makes more sence than 24..  Oh by the way, Faust. I'd imagine it's something you can fix sometime, next patch or whatev'. The 3rd person model of the xbow is still the one from 1.0.. |
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Post by Dragontear on Aug 25, 2006 13:59:45 GMT -5
Another effective strategy, is simply using common-sense, like not throwing grenades at your team-mates, despite it's comical potential.
If you must, and only if you MUST separate, then at least take somebody with you, preferably somebody with a different weapon loadout, so you are more effective rather then sending out heavy weapons guy, he's gonna reload alot sooner than everybody else...
I tend to go into Melee with the knife against lone stalkers and clots, even Gorefasts so long i had weakened them before, hell, even the bloat (without it's head, i ain't gonna be puked on thank-you)
Like others will have said by now, weld doors to hold off the dead, if you must retreat, weld some of the doors behind you.
Just make sure your squaddies ain't behind the door first, nobody likes a backstabber as another will have said by now.
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Post by uwasawaya on Aug 25, 2006 14:10:30 GMT -5
Yeah, melee just really pisses me off in a group game... for one, you're blocked everyone else's firing lines, which is unprofessional and obnoxious. Two, you're going to die a hell of a lot faster then if you had stood back and painstakingly erected a wall of hot lead to stop them instead. Sure, melee comes in handy (too much so, I think the pipe is horrendously overpowered) but it's much too likely to make someone try to be a hero, which is about the worst thing you can do.
No professional military worth a damn today advocates close combat versus ranged, and for damned good reason.
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Post by Dragontear on Aug 25, 2006 14:16:20 GMT -5
I know what you mean, i meant when it is just me v a stray clot, obviously not while i am in somebody else's fireing line.
2-3 hits from the secondary knife attack, hit them then retreat back, then hit them again, repeat until the deadite is, well-more dead.
Then again, i usually play with bots, their the ones running infront of me when i try to throw grenades...
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