Suggestions and bugs (big post)

[nath2008uk]

Hey,my first post,and its gonna be quite big.All/few bugs and suggestions i know/would like to see!

BUGS:

Offices

ON the roof to the side of the double door leading to the stairs,it is possible to throw a grenade or shoot through it,even well its welded.
on the roof the other double door controls the other one,meaning you can weld the other one and it will weld the one by the stairs.
On the elevator it is possible to crouch on the edge near the door and stay there as the elevator goes down/up.
sometimes the enemy can stop spawning all together unless you wait a while (rare)

West London

There is the door that can be bugged sometimes (walk through it when its shut) at the front of the police station (i don't know if this is the gate bug )
it is possible to shotgun jump onto the statue to the left of the spawn,where no specimens can get you except sirens..

Manor

you can shotgun jump onto the wooden pole by the cave hill near the back of the house.
Sometimes the doors break when trying to weld them just by walking into them.

Swamp

Some,most,monsters can and will get stuck at the bottom of the stairs/ramp on the shack.

Sometimes it is possible to have a law and pick up a hand cannon even if the weight is full,meaning the hc has no weight.
When it says *connecting XX%* if you press escape then the screen may go black,and you may even see a fuzzy line (reacts to mouse)
if you hold a weapon,sell it then shoot it,drop it,pick it back up again then you can sell a weapon but keep it.*needs to be fixed*
Sometimes the 9mm handgun can say 15 rounds loaded but must be reloaded,the same with the law.It says 0 rockets loaded but still shoots.
If you are using a 9mm (or other gun i think) and you press r fast to reload,sometimes it doesn't play the reload animation.
The score board can show more than one name of one person sometimes.
I think thats all i can remember,when i find more i will edit.please post if you have more.

SUGGESTIONS

Make players run faster,they are way to small their animation looks like they walk,the army run with a rpg and a 9mm on them.
fix the 3rd person animations,they jump from one animation to another,making it look weird
Make it possible to kick other players.
Fix the intro/credits movie,for me it seems to stay on *SHATTER LINE PRESENTS*.
Add more atmosphere to the game,it seems all arcade to me,like theres not enough bloom/dynamic lighting (cod4 graphics would own it ),not saying the game sux,its the best.
Change the weapon sounds,the 9mm sound like they have no bass,also taking away some atmosphere.
allow the player to purchase objects like weight packs to increase weight,these can cost a high price like $1000.
and could increase weight by 4-5...
Fix the karma objects or remove them,they do get in everyones way when going backwards down the stairs on offices and you spin around on it.
For fun and tactical aiming,add laser sights + flash lights to the 9mms and maybe others,but make the lasers quite small and move alot when you breathe on the game etc,so it doesn't act as a cross hair.
I've noticed the combat shotgun has what seems like a little aim piece on the top of it,shame it doesn't work,but it doesn't have an alt fire so maybe it could use the aim.
the hunting shotgun should have its max ammo increased abit,as it goes very quick,and its weight dropped by one.
Some new mutators should be made just for kf such as enabling you to shoot and even walk through other players as they can get in the way.
Increase hall way sizes on different maps including Manor.
Increase re-loading speed a tiny bit on the shotguns.
Some doors don't show a welding % but they are being welded,please make all doors weldable.
In spectator mode,provide a small hud giving details like specimens remaining and allow a left click = scroll across different players.
Disable shotgun jumping to disable access to high places as stated in the bugs section.

Currently i can't think of anymore but i might edit this post tomorrow with more ;D

*looks up* HOLY,a big post
if you have anymore just post it and i will edit this post.

CYA!

[Alex]

Add more atmosphere to the game,it seems all arcade to me,like theres not enough bloom/dynamic lighting (cod4 graphics would own it ),

*snickers*
I was almost prepared to read right to the end of that.

[nath2008uk]

hehe i knew i shouldn't of mentioned cod 4

my main ones i would like to see are laser sights,faster people (cmon!) and more NON-arcade like lighting *chuckles*

EDIT:

OMG alex,that guy in the depth pic looks like captain Price from COD 4

[[AM]Echo 419]

Heh

[nath2008uk]

hehe got more as i said...

make laser sights buyable for around 150-300 for the 9mm gun.
increase the 6 player limit.
increase running speed (repeated......).damnit..i've lost em

[Grex»]4D[«]

nath2008uk said:

hehe got more as i said...

make laser sights buyable for around 150-300 for the 9mm gun.
increase the 6 player limit.
increase running speed (repeated......).damnit..i've lost em

1) it's getting a flash light
2) no, increasing the player count would make levels easier / overload the map with monsters
3)no, speed is fine with boost for carrying small weapons, you can outrun anything just about with full health and a melee weapon

[Grex»]4D[«]

nath2008uk said:

SUGGESTIONS

1)Make it possible to kick other players.
2)Fix the intro/credits movie,for me it seems to stay on *SHATTER LINE PRESENTS*.
3)Change the weapon sounds
4)allow the player to purchase objects like weight packs to increase weight,these can cost a high price like $1000.
and could increase weight by 4-5...
5)Fix the karma objects or remove them,they do get in everyones way when going backwards down the stairs on offices and you spin around on it.
6)For fun and tactical aiming,add laser sights + flash lights
7)I've noticed the combat shotgun has what seems like a little aim piece on the top of it,shame it doesn't work,but it doesn't have an alt fire so maybe it could use the aim.
8)the hunting shotgun should have its max ammo increased abit,as it goes very quick,and its weight dropped by one.
9)Some new mutators should be made just for kf such as enabling you to shoot and even walk through other players as they can get in the way.
10)Increase hall way sizes on different maps including Manor.
11)Increase re-loading speed a tiny bit on the shotguns.
12)Some doors don't show a welding % but they are being welded,please make all doors weldable.
13)In spectator mode,provide a small hud giving details like specimens remaining and allow a left click = scroll across different players.
14)Disable shotgun jumping to disable access to high places as stated in the bugs section.

1) that's possibly down to the servers not being setup correctly in the ini
2) works for me, so that's a problem on your end
3)agreed for 9mm + bullpup
4)maybe, but with the high fatality rate, unlikely anybody would really use it (cough cough apart from me, but i don't need extra weight from what's available anyway)
5) it's being worked on
6) mentioned above, flashlights
7)agreed, ish, more weapons should have iron sights, or a little bit of zoom, like FEAR, small zoom with pistols. but you shouldn't really need to aim precisely with the shotgun
8)no, balancing reasons, works good as it is
9)just no, this is not AS trick jumping with the need for TFA. if you're trying to shoot through people, move around them o.O
10) monsters come in a straight line anyway, ad they fit into the corridors so no need to
11)they reload quite fast
12)down to the map maker, you just need to aim in the right spot to find the door weld percentage
13)scrolling through players was buggy and it had issues (can't remember it was disabled a while ago because of bugs)
14) down to the mapper to place blocking volumes following testing + feedback

[nath2008uk]

grex4d said:

nath2008uk said:

SUGGESTIONS

1)Make it possible to kick other players.
2)Fix the intro/credits movie,for me it seems to stay on *SHATTER LINE PRESENTS*.
3)Change the weapon sounds
4)allow the player to purchase objects like weight packs to increase weight,these can cost a high price like $1000.
and could increase weight by 4-5...
5)Fix the karma objects or remove them,they do get in everyones way when going backwards down the stairs on offices and you spin around on it.
6)For fun and tactical aiming,add laser sights + flash lights
7)I've noticed the combat shotgun has what seems like a little aim piece on the top of it,shame it doesn't work,but it doesn't have an alt fire so maybe it could use the aim.
8)the hunting shotgun should have its max ammo increased abit,as it goes very quick,and its weight dropped by one.
9)Some new mutators should be made just for kf such as enabling you to shoot and even walk through other players as they can get in the way.
10)Increase hall way sizes on different maps including Manor.
11)Increase re-loading speed a tiny bit on the shotguns.
12)Some doors don't show a welding % but they are being welded,please make all doors weldable.
13)In spectator mode,provide a small hud giving details like specimens remaining and allow a left click = scroll across different players.
14)Disable shotgun jumping to disable access to high places as stated in the bugs section.

1) that's possibly down to the servers not being setup correctly in the ini
2) works for me, so that's a problem on your end
3)agreed for 9mm + bullpup
4)maybe, but with the high fatality rate, unlikely anybody would really use it (cough cough apart from me, but i don't need extra weight from what's available anyway)
5) it's being worked on
6) mentioned above, flashlights
7)agreed, ish, more weapons should have iron sights, or a little bit of zoom, like FEAR, small zoom with pistols. but you shouldn't really need to aim precisely with the shotgun
8)no, balancing reasons, works good as it is
9)just no, this is not AS trick jumping with the need for TFA. if you're trying to shoot through people, move around them o.O
10) monsters come in a straight line anyway, ad they fit into the corridors so no need to
11)they reload quite fast
12)down to the map maker, you just need to aim in the right spot to find the door weld percentage
13)scrolling through players was buggy and it had issues (can't remember it was disabled a while ago because of bugs)
14) down to the mapper to place blocking volumes following testing + feedback

.....
I just dont like that post,no offense.
1)its not the ini,even on my servers.its kf
2)I don't know..i think its me
3)agreed.they need more bass.most of the guns do
4)uh..everyone would want the pack to hold a law + shotgun (nice choice,should be allowed)
5)Yup,and it looks awesome!
6)CMON! flash lights help see,hardly need em,lasers add realism and fun,plus it helps.Cant wait to see em
7)Yeah agreed.but why have stuff like that there? either make aiming or delete it.again realism
8)yeah agreed,the pup seems to quick tho,and the hunting shotgun needs fixing on its reloading.
9)uh.well..its optional.but all the maps are small in most tactical areas (such as manor house or swamp house).the stairs on the swamp killed us with us blocked each others and blocked each other from moving in the shop.A BETTER IDEA! make it enable only when you can go to the trader.so no getting stuck with the trader.
10)this relate to above,had problems with the hall in manor,i don't really know what to say about this,could be a bit wider
11)yeah,but i mean a tiny tiny TINY amount.it just seems a little off.
12)well,we in office went to the bottom of the stairs to the roof,and they couldn't break the door cuz it was being welded.but no %.
13)OK i understand..FIX IT
14)Just find a way to disable it in the game,you can make it,you can disable it.
15)NEW IDEA.disable the stupid ambient sounds playing at spawns.its annoying and sounds like *july*..UH..
16)NEW IDEA.Theres 3 melee weps,2 shottys,2 semi auto weps,few long range,but one machine gun,maybe a uzi and some new grenades.(not a demand since your working hard on 2.5)
17}NEW IDEA.Give melee on weapons,allowing you to melee them with shotguns etc.
18)NEW IDEA.Make the welder more powerful,since welding is like super glue.
19)Increasing the player limit allows more people,its allowed in ut2k4..6 is just to small when the servers always full,just increase monster power instead,not quantity.
20)This seriously needs updating,The players.run.to.slow!, i watched a film,,guy with a law,9mm,ran,I MEAN RAN.I was killed by a fleshie when running from it with a law n 9mm,it was walking its just stupid

[Alex]

nath2008uk said:

grex4d said:

1) that's possibly down to the servers not being setup correctly in the ini
2) works for me, so that's a problem on your end
3)agreed for 9mm + bullpup
4)maybe, but with the high fatality rate, unlikely anybody would really use it (cough cough apart from me, but i don't need extra weight from what's available anyway)
5) it's being worked on
6) mentioned above, flashlights
7)agreed, ish, more weapons should have iron sights, or a little bit of zoom, like FEAR, small zoom with pistols. but you shouldn't really need to aim precisely with the shotgun
8)no, balancing reasons, works good as it is
9)just no, this is not AS trick jumping with the need for TFA. if you're trying to shoot through people, move around them o.O
10) monsters come in a straight line anyway, ad they fit into the corridors so no need to
11)they reload quite fast
12)down to the map maker, you just need to aim in the right spot to find the door weld percentage
13)scrolling through players was buggy and it had issues (can't remember it was disabled a while ago because of bugs)
14) down to the mapper to place blocking volumes following testing + feedback

.....
I just dont like that post,no offense.
1)its not the ini,even on my servers.its kf
2)I don't know..i think its me
3)agreed.they need more bass.most of the guns do
4)uh..everyone would want the pack to hold a law + shotgun (nice choice,should be allowed)
5)Yup,and it looks awesome!
6)CMON! flash lights help see,hardly need em,lasers add realism and fun,plus it helps.Cant wait to see em
7)Yeah agreed.but why have stuff like that there? either make aiming or delete it.again realism
8)yeah agreed,the pup seems to quick tho,and the hunting shotgun needs fixing on its reloading.
9)uh.well..its optional.but all the maps are small in most tactical areas (such as manor house or swamp house).the stairs on the swamp killed us with us blocked each others and blocked each other from moving in the shop.A BETTER IDEA! make it enable only when you can go to the trader.so no getting stuck with the trader.
10)this relate to above,had problems with the hall in manor,i don't really know what to say about this,could be a bit wider
11)yeah,but i mean a tiny tiny TINY amount.it just seems a little off.
12)well,we in office went to the bottom of the stairs to the roof,and they couldn't break the door cuz it was being welded.but no %.
13)OK i understand..FIX IT
14)Just find a way to disable it in the game,you can make it,you can disable it.
15)NEW IDEA.disable the stupid ambient sounds playing at spawns.its annoying and sounds like *july*..UH..
16)NEW IDEA.Theres 3 melee weps,2 shottys,2 semi auto weps,few long range,but one machine gun,maybe a uzi and some new grenades.(not a demand since your working hard on 2.5)
17}NEW IDEA.Give melee on weapons,allowing you to melee them with shotguns etc.
18)NEW IDEA.Make the welder more powerful,since welding is like super glue.
19)Increasing the player limit allows more people,its allowed in ut2k4..6 is just to small when the servers always full,just increase monster power instead,not quantity.
20)This seriously needs updating,The players.run.to.slow!, i watched a film,,guy with a law,9mm,ran,I MEAN RAN.I was killed by a fleshie when running from it with a law n 9mm,it was walking its just stupid

I'm going to ignore most of that nonsense.

i'll adress 20 -

If you are able to run carrying a bazooka, then what about players who dont have bazookas? How do we balance out the fact that they aren't carrying around a walking Death-cannon. Should they be able to fly perhaps? or clip through walls? Who cares what you saw in a film. films are bullshit, just like games. It's done in the name of balance.

[nath2008uk]

wow,good point,hmm i dunno,but it does need increasing somehow,make the monsters faster,but then the maps are problems...uh just increase the one with heavy weight a tiny bit :

edit

I agree,i can say,but its up to you,its good enough already though.to go suicidal in the house in swamp

[Alex]

nath2008uk said:

wow,good point,hmm i dunno,but it does need increasing somehow,make the monsters faster,but then the maps are problems...uh just increase the one with heavy weight a tiny bit :

Basically... this game's been around in some form for three years now. We've all had our say about balance, and what works best. Coming in late and making suggestions, you run the risk of not knowing what you're talking about.

It really is abit like a deck of cards. If you change one thing, you run the risk of collapsing everything, and having to start again.

[maul]

Ha. yeah sorry Nath. You came in a bit off, and bringing suggestions that are very uneducated in the ways of this mod seeing as how you make suggestions assuming it would be a matter of click-click done. ha.
For one thing ALEX IS THE ONLY ONE WORKING ON THIS MOD. Thus even if it was as simple as click-click done. That would be a lot of click-click done.
Open the editor: click-click done.
Open up various levels, coding script tools, other shite needed in the magical art of coding.
Click-click done, Click-click-done, Click-click-done.
Design models for the new weapons.
Click-Click done, click-Click done, Click-click done.
Design seperate animations for the weapons.
Click-click donex15.
Use the magical mod fixing program to just fix all the bugs.
Click-Click done.
Design character animations for the new weapons.
Click-click donex12
Implement the code to allow them to spawn at item points.
Click-click done. Click-click done. Click-click done.
And we're nowhere near even getting past the weapons yet, we hav the issues of bot programming character reactions and scaling the damage, not to mention the prices and other shit. I mean seriously. WTF.
Please for the love of God don't prance into a forum and say "FIX IT" as though you weild almighty power of the modder. He does it because he loves it.
And you're only allowed to pester him (this is coming from the mans mouth, or rather his fingertips as he typed it here to myself when asking if and when 2.5 was still in production)
if you start paying him or send your hot sister over to fellate him on a regular basis or something along those lines...

[[AM] madmax]

I do like the idea of maybe a melee attack with some weapons. But to stop spamming it has a time limit before you can do it again, it only stuns enemies and you can only do it with certain weapons or have it so the speed of the melee attack is based on its weight, therefore don't try it with a LAW.

[Blue]

Melee attacks are not really necessary. You´ve always got your knife to fall back to and you don´t really want to go into melee against most enemies anyway.

[Alex]

What KF does need, I think is a hotkey to automatically switch to your best melee weapon. I sometimes find it annoying having to browse through all my gear just to get to what i want.