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Post by Doyora on Nov 19, 2006 16:45:13 GMT -5
wha... I didn't try to be rude. I was just having a bit of a joke. sorry. And yes, watch out for Abyx and ZB. They can be grouchy.
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Post by lt1956 on Nov 19, 2006 17:19:37 GMT -5
I was speaking to them not you, you must have posted right before me.
Lt
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Post by Abyx on Nov 19, 2006 17:32:49 GMT -5
Alex Great mod, but disappointed in these types of posts from your BETA testers. Abyx one day your going to smart to the wrong guy and your going to learn what fear and hurt are, I feel sorry for you because you will learn the hard way if you dont shape up. Cheers. You know how many times I've heard 'I'm gonna learn the hard way'? Once. From you. And I know what fear and pain is, quite well, thank you. Hence me being such an asshole. By the way, I'm sorry I'm so immature about things sometimes, but it's just so fucking BLATANLY OBVIOUS ingame, that they aren't 'infected'
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Post by kyben on Nov 19, 2006 18:44:45 GMT -5
It is some sick science experiment gone wrong? An infection doesnt make you grow metal like timmys have. In any case, I do agree there needs to be more dead bodies. In KF 1.0 you had the excuse that everyone whos dead is now trying to kill you. KF 2, a person who dies should be dead. About skins, it would be nice to have a variety of clots instead of the same exact one, but alot of work for alittle good.
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Post by lt1956 on Nov 19, 2006 21:01:01 GMT -5
Apology accepted, Funny I was going to call you an asshole. lol But thought better since its a public forum. So as long as your aware of what you sound like when you do that. As for looking at the game, I went by all the hype before of them being infected, I didnt catch on or hear about the Clone thing. I knew there where experients etc, but still that was there when they were being called infected, I guess back then when they wore clothes.
You may have been through alot but there is ALWAYS plenty more in the world to dish out, I am assuming your still in your twenties, so you have alot more life to live. But just try not to plast people right off the bat, it can put people off of this great mod, especially when you want more players not less. ;-)
Lt
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Post by Abyx on Nov 19, 2006 21:30:05 GMT -5
You may have been through alot but there is ALWAYS plenty more in the world to dish out, I am assuming your still in your twenties, so you have alot more life to live. But just try not to plast people right off the bat, it can put people off of this great mod, especially when you want more players not less. ;-) Lt I don't need you to tell me that. By the way, I'm fifteen, not in my twenties.
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Post by Grim on Nov 19, 2006 21:56:05 GMT -5
You're fifteen? When the Hell did you age?
And you know, infections causes pretty bad things, maybe turning into a victim of rape due to ZB is one thing infection causes? Anyways, infection/zombies was the orginal idea, in 2.0, I believe Alex said he was tired of all the same old "zombie" things games made, so he made them "specimens" AKA: Experiments from the goverment (or some thing like that), I believe he said it was 1. To get away from the orginal thing, and 2. have more imagative fun on WHAT kind of monsters to make? Some thing, I dunno, just ignore me I'm'a gonna go kill myself now. Woo
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Post by Dr. Macon Dead on Nov 19, 2006 22:36:34 GMT -5
Actually, LT, that other thread you posted is an excellent example of why Alex changed them from zombies to experiments. See, with a "zombie" you'd expect an instant death from a headshot(Damn you, Romero...!), but with an experiment created for military applications they'd pretty much figure an enemy would go for a headshot, so they'd create them capable of functioning sans-head.
With zombies, you have a bunch of pre-conceived notions of how they should function, and those can even differ from person to person. With experiments its pretty open-ended, as Grim stated above.
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Post by keybob on Nov 20, 2006 1:36:11 GMT -5
Okay... let me posit a theory on why they still run around with no heads... It is quite possible that the virus/infection has ingrained itself into the nervous system, including the spinal column.
This makes the most sense, I believe... but as to the matter of them coordinating themselves even after massive damage to their body structure, i.e. the bloat and the gaping hole in his gut, the infection would have to infect more than their brain.
It is quite possible that this can be attributed to nerve clusters similar to those found in cockroaches, essentially enough to perform basic programmed functions even when large chunks of the body has been removed.
If these nerve cells reproduced at an extremely high rate, and we are assuming that they are very durable and also produce at a cancerous, we now have a suitable hypothesis for why they are so durable, and also why they are infectous, and also why they can inflict so much damage with their hands.
Now how do the nerve cells attribute to the infectous bite, and the dangerous hands? Assume that the cells die when exposed to air... therefore it can no longer be an airbourne disease. When the cells die, they harden, similar to the properties of coral. So the more a Clone/Zombie destroys its hands clawing at people, the more its hands are covered in hard, sharp, growths.
Allright, infectous bite time... I assume the med-srynge neutralizes the virus, of course, the Clone/Zombies tend to claw you, and not bite you, so we assume you are bitten afterwards... But anyways- The virus would be in their saliva as well, it would have to be in order to infect... But since saliva can also be exposed to air, after a while the Clone/Zombie's mouth would be sealed shut due to rapid cell death and growth.
And since we are led to believe that the person/clone whatever they were before the virus took over was a sentient being, with the virus ingraining itself into their body, we can speculate that they become a kind of biological cyborg, where the virus has completely taken control. So we can assume that they are indeed mobile corpses, which leads me to believe that they are indeed a kind of neurological-zombie.
I hope this clears things up a bit... I don't think I have any contradictions, but if there are, let me know, I can think this through again.
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Post by Dr. Macon Dead on Nov 20, 2006 4:04:06 GMT -5
To clear up any confusion: As of KF 2.0, those killed by the experiments do not come back to life as experiments themselves. They are not zombies in any way, shape, or form. There is no virus or infection, and calling them infected is simply incorrect. They are at no point in their existance human. Actually, they're more akin to robots than zombies, now that I think about it.
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Post by Grim on Nov 20, 2006 11:37:04 GMT -5
To put it simpley guys. They are specimens, because Alex likes that better then infected/zombies now. So as for the infection spreading and etc, this is just a game, we dont' need to get "logical" about everything. It wasn't made to be some plausible thing to happen, so you use this game to train yourself against it, it was just made to have fun, to kill things, and to make you hate the British goverment for being evil and greedy and tortuing people! Okay, scratch the last one. But it's just a game, no reason to get so logical about it, just shoot things, end of story.
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Post by keybob on Nov 21, 2006 20:30:15 GMT -5
no... but it is nice to have a story, Grim. I don't really enjoy playing a game where it has no story... Cuz then it turns into shoot shit with glitter... The storyline is half the fun.
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Post by Grim on Nov 21, 2006 22:08:28 GMT -5
There is a base storyline. The British Goverment were trying to cure diseases, but it failed, caused mutations, and created creatures that wanted to kill, so they basically cloned them, to make an unstoppable weapon, and they all get stabbed and slaughtered, basicalyl raped anally by the monsters, which then break out of the labs and into the streets, which then rape the civilians the same way, and now the Distaster Responce Force (DRF) is coming in after them to try and bring back Britian.
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Post by zynthetic on Nov 23, 2006 0:44:21 GMT -5
I thought the government contracted Horzine then later cut finding bc of lack of practical medical application. Horzine continued it's research w/o gov't sanctions and got fucked. Govn't sent in DRF to investigate.
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Post by Grim on Nov 23, 2006 11:35:36 GMT -5
Is it? I dunno, like I said, KillingFloor was never really a story based game for me. But hey, it still kicks ass.
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