Big post of fun

[fleshfeast]

Many things. First, everytime KF switches from Tower or that stupid Hub map, I get this "critical error":

UT2004 Build UT2004_Build_[2004-11-11_10.48]

OS: Windows 2000 5.0 (Build: 2195)
CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 1921 MHz with 1023MB RAM
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GS/XT (6218)

General protection fault!

History: UStruct::SerializeBin <- (Class KFMod.KFMeleeProxy MyWeapon[0]) <- UClass::Serialize <- (Class KFMod.KFMeleeProxy) <- TestReach <- (Class KFMod.KFMeleeProxy) <- UObjectProperty::Serialize <- (ObjectProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.SpawnActorS) <- TestReach <- (ObjectProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.SpawnActorS) <- UField::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.PointRot) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.PointRot) <- UStructProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.PointRot) <- TestReach <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.PointRot) <- UField::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitNormal) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitNormal) <- UStructProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitNormal) <- TestReach <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitNormal) <- UField::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocation) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocation) <- UStructProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocation) <- TestReach <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocation) <- UField::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.EndTrace) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.EndTrace) <- UStructProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.EndTrace) <- TestReach <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.EndTrace) <- UField::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.StartTrace) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.StartTrace) <- UStructProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.StartTrace) <- TestReach <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.StartTrace) <- UField::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocationK) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocationK) <- UStructProperty::Serialize <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocationK) <- TestReach <- (StructProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.HitLocationK) <- UField::Serialize <- (ClassProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.DamageType) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (ClassProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.DamageType) <- UObjectProperty::Serialize <- (ClassProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.DamageType) <- UClassProperty::Serialize <- (ClassProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.DamageType) <- TestReach <- (ClassProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.DamageType) <- UField::Serialize <- (ObjectProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.Pawn) <- UProperty::Serialize <- (ObjectProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.Pawn) <- UObjectProperty::Serialize <- (ObjectProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.Pawn) <- TestReach <- (ObjectProperty KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy.Pawn) <- UStruct::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy) <- UFunction::Serialize <- TestReach <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.CreateProxy) <- UField::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.Timer) <- UStruct::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.Timer) <- UFunction::Serialize <- TestReach <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.Timer) <- UField::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.ModeDoFire) <- UStruct::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.ModeDoFire) <- UFunction::Serialize <- TestReach <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.ModeDoFire) <- UField::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.PostBeginPlay) <- UStruct::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.PostBeginPlay) <- UFunction::Serialize <- TestReach <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.PostBeginPlay) <- UField::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.DoFireEffect) <- UStruct::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.DoFireEffect) <- UFunction::Serialize <- TestReach <- (Function KFMod.KFMeleeFire.DoFireEffect) <- UField::Serialize <- (Function KFMod.

Next, to the admin of geisterbahn, please enable voting again, so we can play Swamp. And please PLEASE turn off screen shake. Firing two pistols at enemies long range causes headaches because the screen shakes like our monitor is sitting on an old dryer. I promise no one will miss it after one wave.

And lastly, some feedback for the new patch.
The handcannon is still too weak. It takes three rounds to down a Clot. Westlondon is too dark, and the rain makes it even harder to see invisible enemies. I wish you guys would move the guns closer to the center of the screen, how do we judge where to shoot when most of the guns are almost sideways in the right corner of the screen? New Specimen models aren't bad, but I liked how the 1.0 Specs had crimson limbs. I miss the baseball bat. Why does a broken pipe cost 100 pounds? The law is a little too weak now, we could really use a new powerful weapon for wave 12, maybe like the Op4 SAW? Would you increase the firing speed for a single pistol? Police are trained to fire 3 bullets a second. The recoil on the single pistol and it's speed are a little bad, it'd be nice if we could shoot that faster. How about for player models, a cop or a survivor similar to how HL2's rebels look? (hood, pants, boots, stocking cap)

Thus concludes my post of fun. (Please turn screen shake off, geisterbahn's admin.)

[Abyx]

fleshfeast said:

And lastly, some feedback for the new patch.
The handcannon is still too weak. It takes three rounds to down a Clot. Westlondon is too dark, and the rain makes it even harder to see invisible enemies. I wish you guys would move the guns closer to the center of the screen, how do we judge where to shoot when most of the guns are almost sideways in the right corner of the screen? New Specimen models aren't bad, but I liked how the 1.0 Specs had crimson limbs. I miss the baseball bat. Why does a broken pipe cost 100 pounds? The law is a little too weak now, we could really use a new powerful weapon for wave 12, maybe like the Op4 SAW? Would you increase the firing speed for a single pistol? Police are trained to fire 3 bullets a second. The recoil on the single pistol and it's speed are a little bad, it'd be nice if we could shoot that faster. How about for player models, a cop or a survivor similar to how HL2's rebels look? (hood, pants, boots, stocking cap)

The Handcannon's power was increased.

WL is completely fine on our machines.(With the exception of Kyben.)

It's called shooting from the hip.

We didn't change the models.

A Baseball bat is American, this is in England. It costs 100 pounds because it can.

The LAW's damage was increased. There aren't new weapons being added.

They aren't police, the pistols firing any faster makes the game play unbalanced.

KF is about the military fighting monsters, not cops or survivors. They're all dead.

[fleshfeast]

The power of the HC is still weaker than in the 1.0 release. You could take a Clot down in one shot. And yes, the models are changed. Once again, in 1.0 they were more crimson and gory looking than in 2.0. I didn't say to increase the dual pistols, just the single one. Seriously, i'm watching something on guns on the History channel, and these people can fire a single pistol pretty fast. I just dislike games that make it too slow, like Doom. Having one fire faster wouldn't unbalance that much..if there's a row of at least three or so enemies you have to keep backing up while shooting one bullet a second and dealing with recoil that isn't realistic. It's too bad you aren't adding a new weapon, because I keep hearing people say they've actually completed a map before, yet every time i've ever played one, everybody dies at about 12. I'm not sure about the military in England, but don't they usually get deployed with M4's?

[el'PiX]

The error above is the well-known melee crash, and has nothing to do with either of the maps you mention.
Turn off the viewshake? Why? It's reasonable that if you fire a LAW at close range, it will affect your vision.

[Abyx]

fleshfeast said:

The power of the HC is still weaker than in the 1.0 release. You could take a Clot down in one shot. And yes, the models are changed. Once again, in 1.0 they were more crimson and gory looking than in 2.0. I didn't say to increase the dual pistols, just the single one. Seriously, i'm watching something on guns on the History channel, and these people can fire a single pistol pretty fast. I just dislike games that make it too slow, like Doom. Having one fire faster wouldn't unbalance that much..if there's a row of at least three or so enemies you have to keep backing up while shooting one bullet a second and dealing with recoil that isn't realistic. It's too bad you aren't adding a new weapon, because I keep hearing people say they've actually completed a map before, yet every time i've ever played one, everybody dies at about 12. I'm not sure about the military in England, but don't they usually get deployed with M4's?

That's only in singleplayer.

If you're comparing 1.0 to 2.0 then it's no longer the time to complain about it.

Read my post, I didn't refer to either, just 'pistols'. And yes it would. Also notice that the Berettas are held with one hand, if you've ever fired a gun before which you most likely haven't if I need to say this, the recoil is suitable.

The M4 is an American weapon. So no, they don't.

[fleshfeast]

pixelscope said:

The error above is the well-known melee crash, and has nothing to do with either of the maps you mention.
Turn off the viewshake? Why? It's reasonable that if you fire a LAW at close range, it will affect your vision.

Because of what I typed. Shooting the dual pistols makes the screen shake too hard, mix that in with shakes from rockets AND grenades exploding means the screen never stops shaking..It would be useful if it were turned off for the person playing the game's sake.

I'm pretty sure the beretta's recoil is suitable. But shouldn't military troops be able to fire one faster than it does? It recoils to the point where the hand is almost vertical after firing one round...But as I said while playing this i'm watching something on guns on the History channel, people who shoot fast for sport and they empty a 9mm clip at a target in seconds, and they aren't military trained.

[Grex»]4D[«]

yeah, people shooting for sport, not running around in a panicked state getting chased by monsters and hoping to not die

and i'm always on geisterbahn and never noticed a problem with viewshake, everyone else seems to though

[Protector]

I never experienced a problem with viewshake on Giesterbahn either, and my computer is as low end as it can get.

And to fleshfeast, I am so sorry to hear that you think the weapons are weak, well, this is a Game, not a military simulation, if you could empty a clip in seconds in this game, then you might aswell turn on Low Gravity, Quad Jump, Super Beserk, and Magic weapons, and argue that they "make up for the lack of powerful weapons"...

The handgun is actually powerful enough, its a pistol. And what would you compare damage in the game to anyway...zombie outbreaks?

And the pipe costing £100 makes sense, the trader is obviously trying to make money in this Post-England-Apocolypse by ripping off Soldiers by selling junk!

And lol, you are complaining about realism, but you also complain that West London should be changed to be Lighter, and less Rainier, what would explain that hmm, Magicians?

[fleshfeast]

I never experienced a problem with viewshake on Giesterbahn either, and my computer is as low end as it can get.

The only problem is that it's headache-inducing firing both pistols and having the screen rattle so much. It'd be nice to see what we're shooting at. It's just a request, the only reason I know what it is, is because I was on a temp server that had it off, and noticed how much nicer it was playing with a steady screen.

And to fleshfeast, I am so sorry to hear that you think the weapons are weak, well, this is a Game, not a military simulation, if you could empty a clip in seconds in this game, then you might aswell turn on Low Gravity, Quad Jump, Super Beserk, and Magic weapons, and argue that they "make up for the lack of powerful weapons"...

I didn't say the weapons were weak, i'm stating that enemies are too strong. A mob of Fleshpounds aren't easily defeated by anything except the hunting shotgun. I dislike this gun because it encourages people to run up and point blank, and since most of the maps are indoors, that person is blocking the rest of our shots. It would be nice to have a very expensive weapon to attempt to shoot for (lol joke) is all. And i'm not talking about any gun, just the single pistol. Sure, firing one in each hand would be slower, but holding one with both hands and shooting shouldn't be. I also said nothing about special abilities, don't put text in my mouth.

The handgun is actually powerful enough, its a pistol. And what would you compare damage in the game to anyway...zombie outbreaks?

It's power is fine, but it's speed is a little slow. That's all.

And the pipe costing £100 makes sense, the trader is obviously trying to make money in this Post-England-Apocolypse by ripping off Soldiers by selling junk!

Is it made of gold?

And lol, you are complaining about realism, but you also complain that West London should be changed to be Lighter, and less Rainier, what would explain that hmm, Magicians?

Because the soldiers aren't changing the map, the people who made the map are. I didn't complain the mod wasn't realistic. It's fighting against undead specimen for flavin out loud. How would I explain it? Gee, doesn't weather change from cloudy and rainy to sunny on earth? Why yes it does.

Another thing to dialogue about. Are these things considered zomgbies? I say, "zomgbies can't 'live' without heads, they're called specimen." And someone will retort with, "How do you know? You haven't seen any zomgbies in real life." No, but you may as well call them werewolves then, since "you haven't seen any werewolves in real life." I'm comfy calling them specimen myself.

[kyben]

I can't wait for fleshfeast's patch!
I hear he's gunna add golden pipes, magicians, changing weather, and gun fixes!

I'm 100% behind you dude, good luck.

[Seras Victoria]

Good reply Kyben 10/10
;D

[fleshfeast]

It'll almost be ready for release, just like Outofhell has been for four years!

[fleshfeast]

So does the admin of geisterbahn visit the forums? Cause viewshake is still on..