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Post by gibberstein on Jun 20, 2006 9:30:32 GMT -5
AFAIK there have been stories of dead people returning to life with a hunger for eating the living in folklore around the world for centuries. There is some overlap with vampires here, but it's nowhere near as clear cut as the current Hollywood stereotypes of the two creatures. Off the top of my head, the traditional Chinese vampire is in many ways more like the Hollywood zombie than the Hollywood vampire. One way or another though, bodies returning from the grave to eat us just seems to be part of the universal subconcious of humanity. Zombie-ish things are found everywhere around the world  As far as the canonical film zombie goes, Romero is undoubtedly the man responsible for establishing the zombie template. Even if you've never seen Night of the Living Dead, you're idea of the zombie will be influenced by it. Not bad for a film that wasn't really about the zombies at all. |
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Post by uwasawaya on Jun 20, 2006 16:35:19 GMT -5
It comes from Vodoun (or if you want to be offensive, "voodoo"), the idea that a Bokor or evil priest can reanimate the dead to do their bidding... not really all that similar to the zombies we know and love, but that's the generally agreed upon source. (Also, the voodoo doll was actually a teaching tool in healing, most likely to help identify pressure points)
Good call on the hopping vampire though Gib, that's another good one.
I wish I had lived in the town during NotLD, would've been great to have some guy be like "We can't afford real actors for zombies, wanna wear some oatmeal and shamble around?" Woulda been so much fun.
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Post by soulscythe on Jun 21, 2006 0:41:57 GMT -5
I'd also immediately jump in as a zombie actor, no doubt. Shouldn't be hard to act like a zombie in the crowd, your small mistakes might be overlooked easily  . The zombie actors must feel strange though, with all those moaning people around them. Maybe they are even scared a little from their surroundings and think "Shit! What if those people suddenly become real zombies?" That's what I'll start to think lol. Unfortunately Romero won't release any other "...of the Dead" movies I've heard. Land of the Dead was the last one and I don't know, whether he has other plans. From where else do zombie movies come? Right, from nowhere else except Romero 95% of the time. There isn't any upcoming zombie movie on the horizon, at least no one I've heard about. This might come from the fact, that the zombie theme is pretty much beaten to death and there isn't much room for variety of story. You can change the location, where the survivors hide out and all that, but the audience might be bored already, because it ends up the same most of the time. Instead they bring on another teenie slasher, in which blonde girls with big breast are killed with long kitchen knives  |
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Post by gibberstein on Jun 21, 2006 15:34:27 GMT -5
Well, Australia seems to be stepping up to the challenge. Undead is an aussie film I haven't had chance to see yet, but I have heard nothing but good things about it.
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Post by uwasawaya on Jun 21, 2006 17:07:04 GMT -5
Wow Gib, I'll have to look into borrowing that from my friend Inta Net. Back in college (god that makes me sound so old... I should say 'last year') I was driving home from a friend's place on Halloween to go to a party downtown. I pull onto the main drag where all the shops and bars are, and see this WAVE of people.. had to be like 50 of them... all zombies, all shambling, chasing after folk and moaning. I was completely in awe. Had it not been Halloween, I would have been sufficiently freaked out. |
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Post by Dr. Macon Dead on Jun 21, 2006 19:10:56 GMT -5
I think I'd almost rather be in an ACTUAL zombie appocalypse than have to sit through undead again. It makes me hurt where my heart is.
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Post by uwasawaya on Jun 21, 2006 20:32:05 GMT -5
Bad Macon? I'm trying to figure out if I want to spend the day bittorrenting it...
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Post by Dr. Macon Dead on Jun 21, 2006 22:37:50 GMT -5
Not the worst zombie movie ever(house of the dead), but its down there. It has a really unprofessional feel to it, and supposedly a good amount of the dialogue was ad-libbed. Plus, a quote taken from IMDB: One day your out on your boat and you get attacked by zombie fish, they munch at your face, like you're the main course at an all you can eat crazy country boy buffet. You walk away, tell the town your story; they think your mad. Everyone thinks your mad, you think I'm mad. It happens again, this time it's not zombie fish it's zombie Berkeley. But this time I'm prepared, I'm ready to fight whatever they can throw at me. Still i wasn't strong enough, the strongest ones are always the last ones left; if that's not me, it must be you. If that was the case you wouldn't have battled the undead and lived. You'd be the entree at a smorgasboard of brainfood. ...Yeah, its probably a better idea to d/l somethign like a bunch of kittens in a blender. It would be less depressing...or rather just jump in a giant blender yourself, as it would be less painful. Supposedly it has a small cult following, but I'm not among them. EDIT: I think I'd actually rather watch this. |
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Post by soulscythe on Jun 22, 2006 0:57:26 GMT -5
I've also heard this movie doesn't take itself too serious. Much of unwanted humor inside, which makes the movie rather a "funsplatter" like Braindead or something. They should make a movie from KF, even it's going to be only a B-movie with B-actors, I won't care. The story from uwasawaya in the "Survival" thread would be a good intro for it |
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Post by uwasawaya on Jun 23, 2006 17:59:24 GMT -5
Thanks Soul... I honestly think that a zombie movie that is more introspective to the main characters is a better experience then a balls to the wall undead action film... it's why I love 28 Days Later... how often do they really fight/see zombies? You get pulled into the story, you start to understand what they feel... those shots of London completely deserted? Didn't you feel empty watching that? You start to really become a part of things, and THEN the horror starts, and it really really hits you.
Read Stephen King's Cell... amazing zombie novel (for the most part)... and in true King fashion, made me sick with depression at one point... so good though.
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Post by soulscythe on Jun 23, 2006 20:15:26 GMT -5
There is a rumor about sequel of 28 Days Later, called 28 Months (or Years, dunno) Later. Anyone also heard about that? It was definately a great movie and the deserted streets in the beginning could easily be labeled "KF-Westlondon" (I guess they weren't in west london at all) |
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Post by uwasawaya on Jun 26, 2006 3:50:15 GMT -5
I have heard of that... it's supposed to be about them trying to recolonize England after the attack (since it supposedly never really spread). And you did notice on West London where it says "The End is Extremely Fucking Nigh"... straight out of the church in 28 Days Later.
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Post by soulscythe on Jun 26, 2006 4:29:50 GMT -5
I have heard of that... it's supposed to be about them trying to recolonize England after the attack (since it supposedly never really spread). And you did notice on West London where it says "The End is Extremely Fucking Nigh"... straight out of the church in 28 Days Later. The quote is from the movie? Hehe nice. Couldn't remember it since I've watched it only once. I'm not sure what would be worse: Slow moving, flesh eating zombies or fast running, insane people, who just want to kill everyone. I guess I'd vote for the fast running ones, because they should be much harder to evade. This was fitting in 28 Days Later very well, compared to the new Dawn of the Dead, where the fast running didn't seem right. It was a good movie, but imho zombies should be a slow shambling, moaning horde . |
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Post by Abyx on Jun 26, 2006 11:41:28 GMT -5
Running Zombies are scary if you're like me.
Whenever I go for jogs, I always imagine I'm being chased by them.
Needless to say I break into a sprint and then start panicking when I'm running out of stanima.
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Post by soulscythe on Jun 27, 2006 0:22:16 GMT -5
Haha, I've just imagined a guy, running past some grannys on a bench, yelling "Run! They're coming!". You shouldn't have too much problems with that I suppose, since you are Leon, right? Just whip out your knexx pistol and hold it tight |
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. The zombie actors must feel strange though, with all those moaning people around them. Maybe they are even scared a little from their surroundings and think "Shit! What if those people suddenly become real zombies?" That's what I'll start to think lol.
