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Post by TheHeroOfCanton on Jul 14, 2005 13:48:47 GMT -5
Hey KF Team, that suxorz about the bugs. We know you've been working hard to finally get this baby off the ground. I hope everything comes together soon, for your sake as much as wanting to play it myself.
Peace.
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Post by Alex on Jul 14, 2005 13:57:37 GMT -5
I appreciate that.
For those of you who understand what REPLICATION is, with the UT engine, you may begin to understand the kind of problems facing us atm.
It's nothing that can't be fixed, but Replication is a nasty, nasty little problem when it comes to Net-games.
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Post by moo on Jul 14, 2005 14:45:22 GMT -5
k what is it ...spill the freshly picked mexican beans...cut the java...crack the rat, i think i can guess it umm it crashes from a server when you change name or something, oh oh is it that kf servers show on normal ut2k4 browser ..hm i give up what is it ?
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Post by zynthetic on Jul 14, 2005 15:09:18 GMT -5
Replication basicly changes how things react/exist durring online play. If there's something wrong w/ it, it can result in things not being there or doing things drastically different than they would durring offline play.
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Post by ddraig on Jul 14, 2005 16:25:52 GMT -5
Cheers for the condolensces and sorry guys for the further delay.
Some newer aspects of the game which Slinky coded were taken as given to be replicated properly before the MP test, but this wasnt so. Basically the game actually works fine in MP if you are the host, its the clients which are effected.
These might seem like newb issues, but when you have a large codebase, continuous bug fixing and ppl working on different builds of the game which cant link up in MP as well as real life schedules its hard to coordinate a proper MP test.
Alex really wanted a game for you by friday and we worked hard for it, but unfortunately this replication issue will need some time to fix.
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Post by Alex on Jul 14, 2005 17:24:57 GMT -5
bingo.
The upside is, while I wait on Gareth for the replication issues, I've got time to beautify other areas of the game, and make more general improvements that wouldn't have otherwise made it in the First release.
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Post by spoondog on Jul 14, 2005 19:25:10 GMT -5
kill me
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Post by lt1956 on Jul 15, 2005 11:53:36 GMT -5
See now thats what I like to hear, more improvements while waiting. lol A mddder myself I love using the extra time to add some things I normally wouldnt have becuase of the schedule. lol
Alex, keep up the good work, Like you know I bought UT04 which isnt even my style of game, because of your mod you are making. lol
Cheers.
Lt
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Post by esgothara on Jul 16, 2005 23:32:23 GMT -5
Hey Alex sorry about the bugs I can imagine you feel
the same way I did when I got headbutted by a midget
in the balls.... Anyhoo I was wondering seeing as how
the multiplayer version is currently a no go how about
just releasing the single player portion and at a later
date when a fix has been made for the multiplayer you might be able to release a patch. Just a thought...
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Post by MadMaxRW on Jul 17, 2005 15:18:16 GMT -5
Releasing the whole thing together as a finished and polished mod is the best thing to do. I do not like the idea of using the delay to add more stuff. That will more than likely delay the release even further. Then you run the risk of fans losing interest, development slows to a crawl, and you eventually pull the plug or rush out something bugged to hell.
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Post by esgothara on Jul 17, 2005 16:35:51 GMT -5
But Madmax its important to understand that the single player portion itself is bug free and ready for distribution releasing it now can in no real way further delay things and if anything at all it would increase interest in the mod and gather further media exposure which would in turn attract more people and as ive stated before once a viable patch for the multiplayer portion is released it can be distributed via online.
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Post by DaJMasta on Jul 17, 2005 23:36:42 GMT -5
In the end, for better or worse of the mod, the decision's up to Alex.
I personally agree with him, every time I release something, I want it to be as bug-free as possible. But looking from an engineers standpoint, you have quality, speed, and budget.
Since they arent getting paid or using too much out of their pockets, its down to quality or speed. Would you rather have a fully working and tested version a little late, or a buggy and semi-tested version early?
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Post by Alex on Jul 18, 2005 8:30:45 GMT -5
I want this out the door, MadMax.
I thought I had made that as plain as possible. Im not sitting here tapping my chin going "ho hum , well it's going to be delayed anyway so why not make 5 new levels, 10 new zombies, and 40 new weapons with my time".
What im doing is, waiting for Gareth to correct the replication problem, and fixing issues like
1. crashes
2. annoying glitches
3. buggy animations or mismatched art assets
4. simple game balance issues.
all of those things are hugely important, and contribute to the overall experience players will have. But no, they will not be things that draw the mod's development on for months and months
that's the last thing me, or any of my team, wants.
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Post by sepheronx on Jul 18, 2005 11:32:08 GMT -5
All i can say is that you and the rest of the team are doing such a great job. I know if i had money (im poor  ) i would donate money. If you want i can save some money up and donate as a gift (though after like say 20 bucks turned to american money, its like what, 10 bucks  ) Anyway, im happy that you guys are taking your time to work on this prize winning mod. I just hope i get enough courage like you guys to get my mod started oh and btw, when i finaly get my site done, you guys could use me as a mirror if you need it |
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Post by MadMaxRW on Jul 18, 2005 13:38:59 GMT -5
Alex, that's all I wanted to hear. I can't tell you how many times a mod (not just random bullshit mods, but ones I was really interested in) mysteriously missed their release dates, promised to add more goodies to please fans, then drops off the radar for a year.
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) i would donate money. If you want i can save some money up and donate as a gift (though after like say 20 bucks turned to american money, its like what, 10 bucks 
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